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friends at "says me street," would be talked about so were. you need that state if you are romney? >>guest: you do. it is 18 electoral votes and there is no other way he can get to 270 needed to win without ohio. very important state. that is why he has three events there tomorrow. >>shepard: real clear politics does an average of all the polls. there has been a lot made about polls recently and the enormous swing especially coming to women, but what is the thinking of you folks at real clear politics? >>guest: the debate helped mitt romney. what is important to note, two weeks ago mitt romney did a big three-stop tour of ohio for several days and that didn't move the polls in his direction in ohio. after the debate, he might now have some new traction. without trying to get a change in the direction of the polls in ohio he will have trouble. they want to build off of this traction they have from the debate and move it forward in ohio. >>shepard: there is another big debate, the day after tomorrow, the vice presidential debate. what kind of impact could that have given who the candidates a
, what's the thinking on governor romney's bounce in the polls since that first big debate? >> they are very pumped here. the romney campaign is quite excited. they say there is more to come. they're building and talking about their ground game, grassroots, 4 million people have been contacted here in ohio alone. 4 1/2 million. that's more than a third of the overall population. the polls have ticked up. romney has closed the gap, leading in some of the national polls, within the mar i didn't know of error, and in most of the battle ground states, he's either closed the gap and in a couple of cases, gone up by a point or two. these are swings in the polls. he's eliminated any bounce the president had gotten from his convention with the own bounce he got last week. with the vice presidential debate this week and two more presidential debathes and generally both campaigns have recognized for the better part of the last year that this race was always going to hover at a close to even tie, 45-47 apiece and it will be decided probably in the last two weeks to ten days as that la
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